8:06 a.m.Do you want to follow the sentencing this afternoon of Dale and Leilani Neumann but can’t be there?
Wausau Daily Herald reporter Jeff Starck will be posting live updates from the Marathon County courthouse to wausaudailyherald.com.
Additional details from today’s court proceedings will be posted online afterwards and included in Wednesday’s print edition of the Wausau Daily Herald.12:55 p.m. The sentencing is scheduled to begin at 1:30 p.m.
For the moment, the courtroom is locked and courthouse security is setting up metal detectors for everyone to pass through prior to entering the courtroom.
So far there aren’t too many people hanging around the courtroom. Wausau media outlets are setting up equipment and a television station from Green Bay also is here. It’s still a far cry from the initial press conference at the Everest Metro Police Department when the charges were announced and a dozen newspaper, television and radio outlets were there.1:35 p.m. The Neumanns just walked into the courtroom. They hugged several friends and family members and had smiles on their faces. The judge has entered the courtroom and we’ll now get started.
1:30 p.m. Leilani Neumann’s attorney, Gene Linehan, just handed me a copy of a motion he plans to introduce today asking judge Vincent Howard to stay the sentence until after the case is heard by a higher court.
If Howard agrees to stay the sentence, Leilani would not begin serving any time in jail, prison or on probation until higher courts have ruled on the case. Linehan said immediately after jurors found Leilani Neumann guilty at the conclusion of her trial in May that he planned to appeal the case.
In his written argument, Linehan said Leilani Neumann has already surrendered her passport, has not missed any court appearances and has followed the conditions of her bond.
2:05 p.m. Marathon County Assistant District Attorney LaMont Jacobson was critical of the Neumanns during his arguments. He pointed out Web sites that Leilani Neumann reportedly wrote on or submitted information to. On one Web site, Jacobson said the Neumanns compared the injustice against them to Christians being thrown to the lions, the Holocaust and a lynching.
Jacobson also said the Neumanns mislead the court Aug. 5 when Howard granted them permission to go to California to visit an elderly relative in poor health. Jacobson said that the Neumann family Web site showed that the family took an “August ministry tour.” The Web site said the Neumanns visited North Carolina, Texas, Indiana, and Washington D.C., among other places. There was no mention of California or a sick grandmother, Jacobson said.
1:50 p.m. Leilani will address Judge Howard during her sentencing, Linehan said.
Linehan had several concerns about the pre-sentence investigation filed by the Department of Corrections. Of particular note were references that Leilani told investigators that Madeline Kara Neumann appeared to be sick for several days before her death. Linehan said that Leilani told investigators that Kara appeared to be tired, not sick.Jacobson also asked for the Neumanns to serve just one year in jail as a condition of probation.
“Kara Neumann paid the ultimate price for her parents’ arrogance and pride,” Jacobson said.2:45 p.m. Kronenwetter said it has been well known throughout the duration of the case that this case will be appealed. The vagueness of the law is the crux of the case, Kronenwetter said.
State statutes are conflicting. The state’s child neglect law provides a religious exemption while the reckless homicide statute does not. The Neumanns were convicted of second-degree reckless homicide.
About 40 people are in the courtroom today, including supporters of the Neumanns, courthouse staff, and local attorneys.
2:40p.m. Dale’s attorney, Jay Kronenwetter, asked Howard for a probation term of three years and four months, after which the Neumanns’ youngest child will turn 18.
When Gene Linehan was making his arguments a few minutes ago, Leilani had tears in her eyes and Dale put his arm around her.
2:26p.m. Gene Linehan said in his 36 years of practicing law, the Neumanns are the most caring parents he has met. He said the Neumanns don’t have a medical background and might practice faith-based healing, but in the future would do what is best for the health of their children.
“The Legislature can temper the practice of religion and has done so in many senses, but philosophically you have the right, an absolute right to lead a faith-based existence,” Linehan said.
Linehan reiterated that this case will be appealed and asked Howard to stay a sentence of probation.
Linehan said that to sentence them to jail immediately would “take from them family experiences and a life they will never be able to recoup.”
2:15 p.m. The Department of Corrections recommended a sentence of 10 years of probation with an unspecified amount of jail time.
Jacobson, who said no one in her family is speaking out for Kara, recommended the Neumanns both serve three years confinement and seven years of extended supervision. However, because of their spotless criminal record, Jacobson asked Howard for the Neumanns to serve 10 years of probation instead.
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Jacobson also asked for the Neumanns to serve just one year in jail as a condition of probation.
“Kara Neumann paid the ultimate price for her parents’ arrogance and pride,” Jacobson said.
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2:05 p.m. Marathon County Assistant District Attorney LaMont Jacobson was critical of the Neumanns during his arguments. He pointed out Web sites that Leilani Neumann reportedly wrote on or submitted information to. On one Web site, Jacobson said the Neumanns compared the injustice against them to Christians being thrown to the lions, the Holocaust and a lynching.
Jacobson also said the Neumanns mislead the court Aug. 5 when Howard granted them permission to go to California to visit an elderly relative in poor health. Jacobson said that the Neumann family Web site showed that the family took an “August ministry tour.” The Web site said the Neumanns visited North Carolina, Texas, Indiana, and Washington D.C., among other places. There was no mention of California or a sick grandmother, Jacobson said.
1:50 p.m. Leilani will address Judge Howard during her sentencing, Linehan said.
Linehan had several concerns about the pre-sentence investigation filed by the Department of Corrections. Of particular note were references that Leilani told investigators that Madeline Kara Neumann appeared to be sick for several days before her death. Linehan said that Leilani told investigators that Kara appeared to be tired, not sick.
1:35 p.m. The Neumanns just walked into the courtroom. They hugged several friends and family members and had smiles on their faces. The judge has entered the courtroom and we’ll now get started.
1:30 p.m. Leilani Neumann’s attorney, Gene Linehan, just handed me a copy of a motion he plans to introduce today asking judge Vincent Howard to stay the sentence until after the case is heard by a higher court.
If Howard agrees to stay the sentence, Leilani would not begin serving any time in jail, prison or on probation until higher courts have ruled on the case. Linehan said immediately after jurors found Leilani Neumann guilty at the conclusion of her trial in May that he planned to appeal the case.
In his written argument, Linehan said Leilani Neumann has already surrendered her passport, has not missed any court appearances and has followed the conditions of her bond.
12:55 p.m. The sentencing is scheduled to begin at 1:30 p.m.
For the moment, the courtroom is locked and courthouse security is setting up metal detectors for everyone to pass through prior to entering the courtroom.
So far there aren’t too many people hanging around the courtroom. Wausau media outlets are setting up equipment and a television station from Green Bay also is here. It’s still a far cry from the initial press conference at the Everest Metro Police Department when the charges were announced and a dozen newspaper, television and radio outlets were there.
8:06 a.m.Do you want to follow the sentencing this afternoon of Dale and Leilani Neumann but can’t be there?
Wausau Daily Herald reporter Jeff Starck will be posting live updates from the Marathon County courthouse to wausaudailyherald.com.
Additional details from today’s court proceedings will be posted online afterwards and included in Wednesday’s print edition of the Wausau Daily Herald.Leilani said she doesn’t think they’ve been treated properly, but didn’t go into details.
“We feared showing remorse for the prosecution taking it wrong,” Leilani said. “Everything we say gets diced up. They scratch for anything to vilify us. People do not know who we really are and how much we love people.”
3:43 p.m. Dale is now done speaking. Howard is now beginning his comments and will hand down his sentence.
3:39 p.m. Dale told Howard that Kara loved God and earned favor with him. It was only hypothetical speculation that Kara would have survived if taken to the hospital before her death, Dale Neumann said.
“Madeline Kara was more than ready,” Dale Neumann said, referring to her death. “She is with the Lord and she lives forever in his presence. Is that the desired outcome of anything? No. It is the result of God doing work in all of our lives. I don’t have power over life and death. God does. He is the one I trust explicitly.”
3:23 p.m. Much like his testimony at his trial, Dale is quoting Bible scripture as he describes his guilt and his faith.
“I’m guilty of trusting my Lord’s wisdom,” Dale Neumann said.
Later, Dale said, “My God requires obedience to his word. If not, I am is a hypocrite.”
3:15 p.m. Leilani has finished her statement and Dale is now speaking.
“Dale and I are not a threat to anyone,” Leilani Neumann said. We were simply unaware of her condition and unsure how to respond … Our faith would never cause us to harm someone recklessly.’
To recap: Pre-sentence investigation – 10 years probation and unspecified jail.
Prosecution: 10 year sentence (three years confinement, seven years extended supervision) stayed and Neumanns serve 10 years probation, one year of jail, 40 hours of community service a year, periodic health checks with public health nurse, notify probation agent when children are sick and follow their orders.
Defense: Three years, four months probation, stayed.
2:45 p.m. Leilani Neumann is now speaking. She said there was a miscommunication with their attorneys about the nature family trip.
“It’s amazing to see how God has taken care of us, we have lost everything,” Leilani said while crying. “Financially we are very broke. It is amazing to see God has provided for us to go on a trip with our familyHoward also showed his knowledge of the Bible when he said Jesus chose Luke, who had been a physician at the time, to be an apostle.
“God must have trusted at least that doctor,” Howard said.5:03 p.m. Court is done. Please see story posted on the WDH web site. Photos and video will be posted later this evening and complete coverage in the Wednesday print edition.
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4:38 p.m. Here is the sentence Howard gave the Neumanns:
* A withheld sentence and 10 years of probation.
* Dale and Leilani will serve 30 days in jail a year for the next six years.
* Their surviving children will be subject to regular and random health checkups until they reach the age of 18.
* They must seek medical attention if it meets requirements set out by Howard.
* Submit a DNA sample and pay restitution.
4:31 p.m.Howard has just recommended a withheld sentence and 10 years of probation with conditions. Howard has ordered jail time as a condition of probation. Each will serve 30 days a year over the course of the next six years.
4:14 p.m. Howard was critical of the Neumanns for misleading the court about their August vacation.
Leilani Neumann tried to tell Howard that she had told her attorney that their plans to visit a grandmother in California weren’t official, but Howard told the Neumanns that it was their responsibility to inform the court of their plans.
“You went east instead of west,” Howard said. “Apparently you never saw the sunny skies of California.”
A few minutes earlier, Howard said the US Constitution protects a person’s right to believe in a religion, but not necessarily the conduct and practice of that religion. As an example, Howard said people can have the belief in human sacrifice protected, but not the practice of human sacrifice.
3:56 p.m. Howard said this case could be reviewed by a number of higher courts, including the regional appeals court, the Wisconsin Supreme Court, a federal appeals court and the US Supreme Court, to determine if the lower courts erred in their decision.
“(The US Supreme Court) will only be found if they are in error when they meet their maker,” Howard said.
Howard said there is one God, but people hear many different voices from that God. Howard said religion and law are similar in that they are both can be interpreted in many different ways.