8:55 a.m.Testimony is scheduled to get underway at about 9 a.m. in Dale Neumann’s trial. He is expected to testify in his own defense.
9:10 a.m. The second defense witness to testify in this case, Earl Schmidt, has taken the stand. Schmidt is Dale Neumann’s uncle.
9:20 a.m. Schmidt went to the Neumanns’ coffee shop on March 20, 2008 — three days before of Madeline Kara Neumann’s death. Schmidt testified that Kara appeared to be normal at the time.
“I was impressed to see a young gal energetic and busy at a job there,” Schmidt said.
9:25 a.m. A man who first met the Neumanns 20 years ago and rekindled their friendship about two years ago, is now on the stand. Defense attorney Jay Kronenwetter did not ask the man, James, to spell his last name and I have no clue how to spell it.
James had an interest in the Bible and attended the Neumann family Bible study sessions. James said he saw Kara about a week before her death and it appeared that the area under her eyes was dark.
9:33 a.m. Just got the spelling — it is James Neuens.Lynn Wilde, who met the Neumanns nearly four years ago, is testifying. She participated in the Neumann family Bible study sessions with the Peaslees, Wormgoors, and Neuens.
9:37 a.m. It appears the Neumann children are all in the courtroom. Seeing how witnesess have been sequestered throughout the trial, I’m guessing that they will not testify. One child testified at Leilani Neumann’s trial in May.
9:44 a.m. Wilde said that Leilani called her the day before Kara died and asked for prayers. The next day, Wilde said felt she should go to the Neumann home. Once there, Wilde said she saw Kara on a couch and prayed with the family for Kara to get well with worship music being played in the background.“I sensed from the Holy Spirit I needed to go there,” Wilde said.
10:20 a.m. Wilde said the Neumanns, herself and the Peaslees had communion at Kara’s side the day of her death. The purpose of communion was to make sure they had no sin, issues of unforgiveness or sins against each other, Wilde said.Kronenwetter asked if there were any signs that Dale was planning or thinking of taking Kara to a doctor. Wilde said “no
11:20 a.m. Sorry for the delay. After a brief break, it was decided that the attorneys will use the next couple of hours to prepare jury instructions.David Ells, who has an Internet ministry, is expected to fly to the Wausau area this afternoon. He will begin to testify around 1:45 p.m. and Dale Neumann is expected to be the final witness after that.
1:53 p.m. Eells flight was delayed in Chicago and might not make it here until 4 p.m., Kronenwetter just said. Dale will testify next.
2:08 p.m. The courtroom is filling up in anticipation of Dale’s testimony. More than 30 people are observing, including members of the Neumann family and employees of the district attorney’s office. Leilani’s testimony on Tuesday and Dale’s upcoming testimony has drawn the largest crowds this week.
2:10 p.m. Dale is now on the witness stand.
Dale said giving a video-tapped statement to police in the hours after his daughter’s death was one of the most difficult things he’s done.
“It was a difficult time. I don’t know if I was completely in the right state all the time,” Dale said.
2:19 p.m. Kronenwetter asked Dale about his religion …
“I am born again from above. Jesus Christ is my Lord. My savior, he has set me free. I am his, I am not my own,” Dale Neumann said.
Later Dale said, “Dale R. Neumann is dead, but Jesus Christ is within me.”
2:36 p.m. Dale said he attended Wausau West High School in the 1970s when drinking was acceptable, even when underage. Dale said he drank frequently, but even then, he felt uncomfortable with that lifestyle.
It wasn’t until he was in his 20s laying drunk on a hotel floor in Stevens Point hotel room that he called out to God in desperation to show him a better life.
The next day he went to a presentation by an Evangelist who was speaking at a local school and was invited to a church assembly. That same evangelist was there and spoke. Dale said he was captivated by the singing, clapping and the joy at the assembly.
Dale said he repented his sins that day and remembered yelling out loud, “God we are so blind!” He demonstrated that from the witness stand, causing the microphones to make a buzzing noise, when he yelled.
2:45 p.m. Dale appears to be very casual on the witness stand. He speaks excitedly about his rebirth after his baptism as a 20-something man In April 1982. His voice speeds up at times, and as I already noted, he will yell or speak softly as he sees fit.
2:55 p.m. Dale said he attend a Bible college in Stockton, Calif., from the fall of 1983 to June 1987 and graduated with degrees in theology and missions.The day after graduation, Dale married Leilani. They then returned to Wausau.
2:59 p.m. I forgot to mention Dale’s training was in the Pentecostal church.
3:08 p.m. Kronenwetter asked Dale why he no longer was a minister. Dale said he felt as if he was being disobedient to the word of God.
Dale responded reading from the Bible he carries with him — Matthew Ch. 7, verse 13-27.
Enter through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and spacious and broad is the way that leads away to destruction, and many are those who are entering through it.
14But the gate is narrow (contracted [a]by pressure) and the way is straitened and compressed that leads away to life, and few are those who find it.(A)
15Beware of false prophets, who come to you dressed as sheep, but inside they are devouring wolves.(B)
16You will [b]fully recognize them by their fruits. Do people pick grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?
17Even so, every healthy (sound) tree bears good fruit [[c]worthy of admiration], but the sickly (decaying, worthless) tree bears bad (worthless) fruit.
18A good (healthy) tree cannot bear bad (worthless) fruit, nor can a bad (diseased) tree bear [d]excellent fruit [worthy of admiration].
19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire.
20Therefore, you will [e]fully know them by their fruits.
21Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven.
22Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name and driven out demons in Your name and done many mighty works in Your name?
23And then I will say to them openly (publicly), I never knew you; depart from Me, you who act wickedly [disregarding My commands].(C)
24So everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts upon them [obeying them] will be like a [f]sensible (prudent, practical, wise) man who built his house upon the rock.
25And the rain fell and the floods came and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock.
26And everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not do them will be like a stupid (foolish) man who built his house upon the sand.
27And the rain fell and the floods came and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell–and great and complete was the fall of it.
“For me I was discontented… I was a hypocrite,” Dale said.
3:15 p.m. Dale testified that he was lacking a key ingredient in serving God by putting false idols before him. Dale said that religion, ministry, employment and his self ambitions were his idols.
Dale also told jurors that he has seen “cancers fall off in meetings,” women who couldn’t have children, have children after being healed by God, and women healed of breast cancer.
“I’ve seen physical healings in meetings I have attended and been part of,” Dale said.
3:25 p.m. Kronenwetter asked Dale how scripture commanded him not to seek medical attention. Dale replied by reading 1 Peter, Ch. 2, verse 21.
This is the second passage Dale has cited and read, but he has quoted other passages from memory.
“We have to learn to submit ourselves to (God’s) works,” Dale said. “That is obedience. That is faith in action.”
3:40 p.m. Dale just told the jurors a story how 10 years of back pain disappeared after he listened to the Holy Spirit in 2005 or early 2006. The Holy Spirit told him to destroy some books and figurines he had, and Dale said once he did that, the pain went away. That was a spiritual cause of a physical ailment, he said.“What ever it is Lord, I’ll do it. You set me free,” Dale Neumann said.
4:10 p.m. We’re back after a recess. Kronenwetter said during the break that Eells’ flight was delayed again. I’m not sure if he will be able to testify today or wait until tomorrow.
4:30 p.m. Dale is now answering questions about Kara’s final days.
Dale said that when Leilani came home from work on Saturday, the day before Kara died, the girl’s legs had a bluish color. They began praying for her and massaging her feet, which helped the blue color disappear, Dale said.
Later that night, Dale sent an E-mail to the Unleavened Bread Ministries in an attempt to ask David Eells for prayers to help Kara feel better.
Dale said the Neummans prayed continuously that evening before going to bed after midnight.
“It could have been flu, it could have been fever, but whatever it was, she was very sleepy,” Dale Neumann said. “It needed attention so we prayed for our faith.”
4:45 p.m. On Sunday, Kara was still limp and was asleep, said Dale, who was confident that Kara would get better.“Whatever it is will burn out of her body and we will rejoice with Kara after the fact,” Dale Neumann said
4:55 p.m. Kronenwetter: “At any point did you think Kara would die if you didn’t take her to a doctor?”
Dale Neumann: “No. Death wasn’t even in my mind.”
4:59 p.m. Dale tells the story of Lazarus rising from the dead and says that he believes in resurrection.“If we don’t believe in the resurrection of the dead, then we actually have no hope. No hope at all,” Dale said.
5:15 p.m. Dale said he was trying to make Randy Wormgoor feel better when he made a comment about thinking about a doctor as Kara neared death.
“I was trying to comfort him,” Dale Neumann said. “It is OK to have a thought like that. It is not detrimental to your faith.”
Kronenwetter asked Dale if he had anything else to the jury. Dale read from the Bible, Job, Ch. 1, beginning at verse 6.
Dale becomes emotional while reading about Job losing his 10 children.
“If I in a moment of crises and a moment of time I went to anyone else but the Lord, it would not have been favorable to God,” Neumann said. “It would have been idolatry and sin because it is disobedience.”
5:17 p.m. LaMont Jacobson has now begun his cross examination.
Throughout his more than three hours of testimony, Dale has spoken to the jury. He makes frequent eye contact and appears to engage them in his testimony. When he was discussing his faith, Dale told them how he was trying to do this to help them better understand his religious background.
Often on the witness stand, people look straight forward, down at the microphone or only at the attorneys.
5:44 p.m. LaMont Jacobson questioned Dale’s memory of Kara’s condition in her final days and the accuracy of the statement he gave to police hours after her death. Kronenwetter is now asking Dale a few questions as it appears his testimony is wrapping up after 3.5 hours.
// <![CDATA[// 5:59 p.m. Dale is off the stand. We are still waiting to find out if Eells will testify today or not.
6:10 p.m. Eells will not testify and the defense has rested. There will be no additional witnesses to testify. Closing arguments will be made Friday morning.